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		<title>By: b83</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>b83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried using a pre-printed stamp - not from APC, but it had a marked date of January on it.  Tried mailing it November 1 of that year, and the mail clerk at the counter said they would&#039;ve accepted it the day before, but not that day.  So I&#039;m guessing they could have maybe a 10 month shelf life date-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried using a pre-printed stamp &#8211; not from APC, but it had a marked date of January on it.  Tried mailing it November 1 of that year, and the mail clerk at the counter said they would&#8217;ve accepted it the day before, but not that day.  So I&#8217;m guessing they could have maybe a 10 month shelf life date-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Lani Kai</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>Lani Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used an APC once only to have the item come back to my home with a label saying &quot;insufficient postage&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used an APC once only to have the item come back to my home with a label saying &#8220;insufficient postage&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: giddygirlie</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1238</link>
		<dc:creator>giddygirlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The APC stamps are valid until the rates go up again, but if you add the extra postage to one, it&#039;s treated the same as any other stamp. There are no rules/laws against using them days/weeks/months after you&#039;ve printed them. That is the same with postage meters (like Pitney Bowes too). What you&#039;re NOT supposed to do is crank back the date on your machine (say you have a PB machine in your office) because then it is tampering and fraud. But printing it Monday and using it Friday is not a problem. Postage is currency, so it never &#039;goes bad.&#039; 

If you get a letter in the mail w/o a cancellation on it (which happens to me ALL the time), you&#039;re not *supposed* to re-use the postage. It&#039;s basically as if USPS dropped $0.44 out of its pocket and you decide to keep it. They try and put legal enforcements, but HOW on earth could they do that? Especially for solitary incidences... Just like if you found $100 bill blowing down the street, you&#039;re *supposed* to turn it in to the police, but who does? You think any cop will get a warrant to come arrest you for theft for $100? No. Now imagine that happening for 44 cents. Plus, the reality is that most people aren&#039;t going to try and peel the stamps off of envelopes to re-use them. I know that I am too lazy to do it! 

The APC barcode is likely intended to be a unique identifier, so that if the same code is re-used (say, you scan it and print out 1000 copies to use), it red flags the mail so the Postal Police can haul you off to jail.

But to your point: I think what has really happened is the USPS has cut back staff to a point where there is less QC for postage cancellations. If you mail a funky package, it has to be handled by a human, so it likely will be cancelled out, but a run-of-the-mill letter might not. And if things are going out in bulk, like direct mail pieces, those hardly ever get the stamps cancelled. So if you have something that is critical to have stamped as being mailed on a specific date (like taxes) take it inside to get it stamped. If it&#039;s something more realistic, like a rent check, I think most landlords would be fine w/looking at the APC postage date if there isn&#039;t a cancellation. They&#039;re more concerned about what is INSIDE and if THAT check is good. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The APC stamps are valid until the rates go up again, but if you add the extra postage to one, it&#8217;s treated the same as any other stamp. There are no rules/laws against using them days/weeks/months after you&#8217;ve printed them. That is the same with postage meters (like Pitney Bowes too). What you&#8217;re NOT supposed to do is crank back the date on your machine (say you have a PB machine in your office) because then it is tampering and fraud. But printing it Monday and using it Friday is not a problem. Postage is currency, so it never &#8216;goes bad.&#8217; </p>
<p>If you get a letter in the mail w/o a cancellation on it (which happens to me ALL the time), you&#8217;re not *supposed* to re-use the postage. It&#8217;s basically as if USPS dropped $0.44 out of its pocket and you decide to keep it. They try and put legal enforcements, but HOW on earth could they do that? Especially for solitary incidences&#8230; Just like if you found $100 bill blowing down the street, you&#8217;re *supposed* to turn it in to the police, but who does? You think any cop will get a warrant to come arrest you for theft for $100? No. Now imagine that happening for 44 cents. Plus, the reality is that most people aren&#8217;t going to try and peel the stamps off of envelopes to re-use them. I know that I am too lazy to do it! </p>
<p>The APC barcode is likely intended to be a unique identifier, so that if the same code is re-used (say, you scan it and print out 1000 copies to use), it red flags the mail so the Postal Police can haul you off to jail.</p>
<p>But to your point: I think what has really happened is the USPS has cut back staff to a point where there is less QC for postage cancellations. If you mail a funky package, it has to be handled by a human, so it likely will be cancelled out, but a run-of-the-mill letter might not. And if things are going out in bulk, like direct mail pieces, those hardly ever get the stamps cancelled. So if you have something that is critical to have stamped as being mailed on a specific date (like taxes) take it inside to get it stamped. If it&#8217;s something more realistic, like a rent check, I think most landlords would be fine w/looking at the APC postage date if there isn&#8217;t a cancellation. They&#8217;re more concerned about what is INSIDE and if THAT check is good. <img src='http://wondermark.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: coljac</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator>coljac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TheDude, i was about to mention this. A friend of mine sent all his Christmas cards this way one year, putting the recipients as the sender, and no postage. (This was in Australia, mind you, but I&#039;m sure the loophole is the same).

All the cards arrived... in mid-late January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TheDude, i was about to mention this. A friend of mine sent all his Christmas cards this way one year, putting the recipients as the sender, and no postage. (This was in Australia, mind you, but I&#8217;m sure the loophole is the same).</p>
<p>All the cards arrived&#8230; in mid-late January.</p>
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		<title>By: David Malki !</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>David Malki !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah: that&#039;s exactly what I mean when I say I was testing to see if the stamps would be canceled or not -- and not all of them were. Meaning, the only date on the stamp would be the date it was sold. There would be no postmark in those cases, so if someone was checking for a date, they&#039;d have no choice but to go by the sell date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah: that&#8217;s exactly what I mean when I say I was testing to see if the stamps would be canceled or not &#8212; and not all of them were. Meaning, the only date on the stamp would be the date it was sold. There would be no postmark in those cases, so if someone was checking for a date, they&#8217;d have no choice but to go by the sell date.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was with you there for a while, but you have made a grave error. The stamps contain a &quot;Date of Sale&quot; stamp. Take a look at the last picture in your post. I can tell that one was shipped May 7, one April 24, etc. That is because they are marked at the post which processes them,  or as they would say, POSTMARKED. That is really the mark people are standing in line to get on their letter. Buy a normal stamp, I have no idea when you sent the letter. Buy an APC stamp and i know when you..bought the stamp. It is the postmark which really counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was with you there for a while, but you have made a grave error. The stamps contain a &#8220;Date of Sale&#8221; stamp. Take a look at the last picture in your post. I can tell that one was shipped May 7, one April 24, etc. That is because they are marked at the post which processes them,  or as they would say, POSTMARKED. That is really the mark people are standing in line to get on their letter. Buy a normal stamp, I have no idea when you sent the letter. Buy an APC stamp and i know when you..bought the stamp. It is the postmark which really counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great entry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great entry!</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1227</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A mail tactic I may try someday is to mail a letter with the return and recipient address switched. I think if you do switch the 2 addresses, and don&#039;t put any postage on it, the mail system will return it with an &quot;insufficient postage&quot; notice, but it will be returned to the intended recipient. Wuddaya think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mail tactic I may try someday is to mail a letter with the return and recipient address switched. I think if you do switch the 2 addresses, and don&#8217;t put any postage on it, the mail system will return it with an &#8220;insufficient postage&#8221; notice, but it will be returned to the intended recipient. Wuddaya think?</p>
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		<title>By: Billzebub</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Billzebub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, the IRS doesn&#039;t have time to read cancellation dates on all the returns that show up in late April. Mail it in on April 22nd if you want to, they won&#039;t notice or care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, the IRS doesn&#8217;t have time to read cancellation dates on all the returns that show up in late April. Mail it in on April 22nd if you want to, they won&#8217;t notice or care.</p>
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		<title>By: smonkey</title>
		<link>http://wondermark.com/the-postmark-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>smonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some guys here in Chicago that make &quot;art stamps&quot; that are most interesting when sent through the postal service and canceled.  Some with guns, drugs, boobs, odd things to run through the post office.  And they&#039;ve had some nasty nasty nasty dealings with &quot;the man&quot;.
http://www.badpressbooks.com/mhdl.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some guys here in Chicago that make &#8220;art stamps&#8221; that are most interesting when sent through the postal service and canceled.  Some with guns, drugs, boobs, odd things to run through the post office.  And they&#8217;ve had some nasty nasty nasty dealings with &#8220;the man&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://www.badpressbooks.com/mhdl.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.badpressbooks.com/mhdl.html</a></p>
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